“John of God” – REALLY???

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I truly believe in miracles. I believe in healing. I believe God answers our prayers. They may not be the answers we want to hear, but God does answer us. I am the world’s biggest skeptic. Being an adopted Missouri girl, you have to “SHOW ME” when it comes to these types of things. I can spot a fake a mile away. I am a good judge of character. I know when people are lying to me. I have great “holy spirit” gut feelings. It is very seldom that I am fooled. That is why I thank God every day for my faith. My personality says that I could definitely be an Atheist. Wednesday I saw an Oprah show featuring “John of God” a “healer” from Brazil. I am not a big Oprah fan; I’ll let you know that right off the bat. However, I have been taping this season because it’s her last, her 25th season finale. Her guests have been very good. You may or may not have heard of this “John of God”, I hadn’t until I watched this Oprah show. I was shocked I had no clue who he was. I am pretty in touch with all things and people who are Catholic and in the public eye. John of God is a man who heals people (or so they say.) He lives in Abadiania, a remote town in Brazil. He is internationally known as John of God or João de Deus. People claim he is arguably the most powerful unconscious medium alive today and possibly the best-known healer of the past 2000 years. They say João is a humble man who is very clear about one thing: “I do not cure anybody. God heals, and in his infinite goodness permits the Entities to heal and console my brothers. I am merely an instrument in God’s divine hands.” The medium Joao Teixeira has no formal medical training. He claims he’s a “simple farmer.” Instead he gives over his consciousness and incorporates the spirits of past doctors and saints. These entities give talks, examine the waiting masses and conduct the visible and invisible operations. It is estimated that he has treated, either directly or indirectly, up to 15 million people during the past 40 years. He does not charge anything for his services. However, there are a ton of people out there profiting from this man. They have to be! The Brazilian tourism industry, the hotel industry, the private tour guides with their tour fees, he’s got books and DVDs, they sell crystals and his “cure all” herbs – Passionflower. Can you say…Kickbacks?? I think so. Even if he doesn’t charge a dime, he’s making money. Thousands flock to see this man every week. He treats hundreds every day. He does actual surgeries without anesthesia, does “eye scrapings”, he also does “non-physical” surgeries and distance healing. I’ve done some research on this man; one website suggested he is a Catholic, a “Spiritist” and “medium.” (Extremely common in Brazil) Can you be a spiritist and a medium and Catholic? Could and would our God be behind this man and his works? The healing entities who work through John of God are the spirits of deceased doctors, surgeons, masters and saints, each one, exceptional people during life on earth. As a full trance medium, the spirit Entity incorporates into his physical body so completely, during the sessions, that John of God has no recall of the work performed through him. Occasionally, the spirit Entity makes their identity known. More often, by distinct attributes in manner and speaking style, John of God’s helpers can identify which Entity is working through him. Principal among them is St. Ignatius Loyola, the Entity for whom Casa de Dom Inácio is named. Others are Oswaldo Cruz, a famous doctor in Brazil over 100 years ago, who eradicated yellow fever and was a key figure in the founding of Brasilia, Dr. Augusto de Almeida, a surgeon and spiritual master who performs many of the surgeries, and Dr. Jose Valdivino, a surgeon. The Catechism of the Catholic Church states: Divination and magic 2115 God can reveal the future to his prophets or to other saints. Still, a sound Christian attitude consists in putting oneself confidently into the hands of Providence for whatever concerns the future, and giving up all unhealthy curiosity about it. Improvidence, however, can constitute a lack of responsibility. 2116 All forms of divination are to be rejected: recourse to Satan or demons, conjuring up the dead or other practices falsely supposed to “unveil” the future.  Consulting horoscopes, astrology, palm reading, interpretation of omens and lots, the phenomena of clairvoyance, and recourse to mediums all conceal a desire for power over time, history, and, in the last analysis, other human beings, as well as a wish to conciliate hidden powers. They contradict the honor, respect, and loving fear that we owe to God alone. 2117 All practices of magic or sorcery, by which one attempts to tame occult powers, so as to place them at one’s service and have a supernatural power over others – even if this were for the sake of restoring their health – are gravely contrary to the virtue of religion. These practices are even more to be condemned when accompanied by the intention of harming someone, or when they have recourse to the intervention of demons. Wearing charms is also reprehensible. Spiritism often implies divination or magical practices; the Church for her part warns the faithful against it. Recourse to so-called traditional cures does not justify either the invocation of evil powers or the exploitation of another’s credulity. Personally, I think its all bunk. I believe God works in mysterious ways. BUT, my gut is bothered by all of this. I have an uneasy feeling. I smell a rat. Is this evil at work? I think so. How do you explain all of these healings? I have no idea. And, honestly I don’t care. What I do know is if you pray for wisdom and truth, God will show it to you. He will lift the veil. I feel bad for all of the suffering people out there who have no hope and are being sucked in by this guy. My mom is sick. She has a disease that can claim her life. She is being healed every day.  IF they only knew who their DIVINE HEALER was… Oprah’s site: http://www.oprah.com/spirit/Do-You-Believe-in-Miracles_1 http://www.johnofgod-healing.com/frm_john_of_god.asp Share on Facebook Share

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17 responses

  1. Thanks for your post.

    It is an interesting line we walk I guess. Because “laying on of hands” for healing is an acceptable Christian practice, isn’t it? I know the Catechism says that’s reserved for priests, but aren’t we all, according to the bible, priests and saints? At least we have that potential.

    I recently went to a Healing Service at my Catholic church, where we prayed for each other’s healing and people put their hands on each other.

    What about scapulars? Isn’t that like a charm? My son received one from church, and I found myself having to explain to him that he didn’t need the scapular in order to have God’s love and protection, eternal life, etc.

    And as I contemplate John of God, the healer, I know in my heart that God’s healing is mine without the intercession of that man. However, I cannot just outright say he’s a fake and against my religion, because one of the reasons I love my religion so much is that it recognizes the mystical, the miraculous, the saints. Maybe John of God is a saint performing miracles.

    It wouldn’t take to long to find scores of examples of saints performing the miracles of healing while they walked this earth. So while I will stear clear of mediums and psychics and horoscopes and reiki, something in my heart tells me that John of God doesn’t fall right into that category. He is something different.

    Do I know if he’s the real deal? No, but I feel if I explored intercession with him, I would not automatically be sinning or be at odds with God.

    • Kris, thank you so much for your point of view and for commenting on my blog! I appreciate it!

      I believe in laying on of hands and in healing. I said that in my article. This man is consulting dead doctors which makes this spiritualism, which is forbidden in Scripture. We all have to decide for ourselves and for me, that is enough.

      http://www.askacatholic.com/_webpostings/answers/2007_11NOV/2007NovOnJohnOfGodInBrazilAndChristinaGallagher.cfm

      This should explain a little about how the scapulars should be viewed and worn. It is not a lucky charm.

      http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/general/Scapular.htm

      Have you seen John of God? I’d love to hear your story!
      Thank you so much again for your comment! Peace on your journey!

      • Hey, Michelle! Great blog, I’ve spent some time looking around. Congrats on some excellent work here!!!

        No, I haven’t seen him. He does “distance healing” so that is an option, but I can’t see myself ever going to Brazil.

        Yes, I see your point, channeling dead people does seem to cross a line, doesn’t it? LOL.

        I do not see where you say you believe in laying on of hands, but I do see that you believe in healing. I have a special interest in healing, and have wondered a lot about it. I have read the Catechism on it and it seems to say that only priests can “lay on of hands,” so that has confused me.

        Thanks for the links, I will read them.

        I’ve added you to my Google Reader.

        Happy New Year!

      • Hey Kris…thanks again for your kind comments! HAPPY NEW YEAR!

        You are right, I did not specifically say in the article that I believed in laying on of hands but I do believe in that. It is used widely in the Charismatic Movement of the Catholic Church. I know that the “Sacrament of the Sick” is performed by a priest but praying over a sick person and laying on of hands can be done by anyone. I have been doing some reading in the Catechism myself because I am not clear on it either. BUT, what is clear is that the SACRAMENT is given by a priest. However, in articles 1506-1509 it isn’t talking about the Sacrament of the Sick proper. And in reading it it doesn’t say only priests anywhere in the text.

        I think where all of this gets cloudy is basically in who we believe is doing the healing. Is it that person’s power or is it thru Jesus? If we keep that in perspective we will not go astray. All healing is done thru Jesus and in HIS name.

        I also have a special interest in healing! We are Christ’s instruments on earth. We have the gifts of the Holy Spirit thru our baptism and confirmation. We are so blessed!

        Have a great New Year’s eve and here’s to a fabulous 2011!
        Blessings,
        Michelle

      • Hi Michelle,
        My husband had seen John of God and witnessed a miraculous healing in February 2012. He went there because no medical treatment can get him better. Before he went there he could hardly walk due to a severe knee injury, a lower back issue of 25 years and a recent muscle tear in the abdomen. You may check my blog about his healing. Our prayer was for my husband to restore a normal life. As of today, my husband can exercise and do yoga never mind being able to walk straight.
        Like you I am a practicing Catholic and my family is very close to the faith. I believe that God can work in many mysterious ways, beyond our compehension. As St. Ignatius of Loyola said, ” “For those who believe, no words are necessary for those who do not believe, no words are possible.”
        I am leaving this month to experience a spiritual retreat. I am physically healthy, however, I know that there are things I want to ask for God for help in nurturing peace within like for example taming the ego. From my point of view, If love is present how can it be the devil’s work?
        My family is stronger in our love for God and more compassion for others.

      • In response to “Creative Dragon” whose husband has experienced a miraculous healing at the casa of the man calling himself “John of God’: that is wonderful and may your husband continue to experience good health. However, As you go to your spiritual retreat seeking inner peace reflect on the catholic church’s teachings that the real fruit of true peace is only made evident while a soul is experiencing the greatest trials, tribulations, and desolations, not when the soul is being blessed with many consolations and gifts. As Satan said to the Lord regarding Job: “Yes, all that a man has he will give for his life. However, put forth Your hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh; he will curse You to Your face.” I think our catholic faith is less about getting everything we want (even good things like physical health) and more about our being faithful imitators of Christ who suffered much for love and to give us real everlasting Life, Joy, and Peace…also the life of Christ is shown more through inner conversion of heart and repentance…Jesus said He came to fulfill the law, not abolish it: spiritism and channeling are not of God, period. God is worthy of our trust during times of testing. All of Holy Mother Church’s Saints and Martyrs have chosen to follow Christ in His passion and suffering for the eternal reward of salvation. Those who are truly following Christ welcome crosses as a way to show Jesus how much they love Him and trust Him.

        No one said it would be easy…

        May God Bless us all.

  2. Thanks for the Catechism references, Michelle. Happy New Year to you too! The healing service that I went to at my Catholic church last month was unlike anything I have ever experienced within Catholicism. It was awesome! At that service, this book (http://bookstore.wau.org/productdetails.cfm?PC=867) was recommended, and it’s on my wish list.

    I once received the Sacrament of the Sick when I was having a problem that wouldn’t resolve, and that was pretty cool too. I recently got my license in massage therapy, and nearly everyone does or receives reiki. I am so glad for the church’s clear stance on that, and that I know to stay away from it. It’s unreal though, around here hospitals and hospices are offering reiki free of charge to patients as a matter of routine. And I don’t think many Christians realize how contrary to our beliefs that reiki is.

    Anyway, thanks again for your thoughts, and the references for me to look up, and for your blog!!

  3. Hi there,
    i love your blog,i!ve been wanting to meet or cgat with somebody about hohn of god,i’m confused because i sent my picture to him for distant healing,and i belief i got the healing,i’m a practicing catholic,i know there are some conflicting issues with the church about thusmbut my gut feeling tells me,there is more to john of god,than being fake,i’ve decided to put it in prayers and ask for our Blessed mother intercession,so i can know if i’m doing the right thing,please pray for me,my husband doesnot belief in john of god,again we are charimatic catholics,

  4. I went to Brazil and “john of God” for a year. Things happen there that we do not understand but I would recommend to all to stay away from the Casa De Dominocio. After returning, all sorts of weird things started happpening to me and I am not prone to exaggeration. In fact, it took me a lonf time even there to believe what happens is real. People who are desparate for a cure will go to any lenghts often but will ignore practicality. This is not a place to mess around with in terms of goign there. Furthermore, the people who are there really “drink the koolaid so to speak.

  5. thomask, blessings! can you explain more clearly what you mean. “drink the koolaid?

  6. dear brothers and sisters in Christ,
    my dear mother, Gisi, who is fallen away from the Church since childhood is going to this place in 2 weeks (July 2nd-15,2012)…please pray with me for the precious Blood of our Lord to cover her and to protect our whole family from these demonic ‘entities’. God Bless You.

    Carla

  7. Thank Carla, I agree with you. I have gone through a lot in life only God knows. I continue to thank Him for all the Blessings in my life and including the hardships I have gone through in the past. My life is now singing with joy and full of praise to God, for His continued great love for me. I am very happy to know Him more through His manifestations in my life. God Bless.

  8. It takes a long time for the Church to acknowledge healing as facts even from Lourdes and other pilgrimage sites, let alone from Brazilian John. It is soooooo clear that this is demonic that the evidence is all over the place just reading on the net. One priest said, that fruit from evil might look and feel like from divine, but 1. They won’t last 2. Comes with weird consequences…loss of peace, anxiety, worrying, presence of mysterious voices or noises and etc…That Thomask said is very true. This is very demonic. Christians should be MORE THAN AWARE of this happening let alone getting involved in any way. This is a serious matter and the forces involved into this are not to be messed around or played. Pleasure and wishes granted might come at a tooo high price.

    Also, once priest exorcist said, that if one experiences some weird experiences during prayer or meditation (smell of flowers, heat out of the palms, swinging and etc…) should renounce these sign in the name of Jesus if they are not from HIM. These signs are not necessary for our salvation and therefore should not become the focus no matter how pleasing it might appear to us and others. So if your husband, “Createve Dragon”, truly wants to put it in front of Jesus he should renounce this healing and all the consequences and ask Jesus to take it away if it is not from Him. This could be a small price to pay compared to his soul. God Bless!

    The responses above are excellent!

    • Dear All,
      I am thankful to Edvina for her boldness…I was trying to be gentle and I don’t think Creative Dragon understood. I was just reading in St. Paul’s letter to the Collosians yesterday and verses 2:18-23 recalled to my mind this man calling himself “John of God’ and being just such a seducer….’willing in humility’ meaning a self-willed false humility (saying that God, not himself does the healing) and the ‘worshipping of angels’ which are what he and his followers call the ‘entities’….and the superstitious practice of telling people not to eat pork and other things for 40 days after the ‘surgery’….then St. Paul in the following chapter goes on to instruct about keeping our minds on things above (being that salvation that Edvina points to) and not the things of the earth (which are our physical bodies). I stand with Edvina on this matter and say to all, catholics especially, who even entertain the thought of believing in this seducer: Repent and turn to Christ who alone is the Way, the Truth, and the Life! He alone will give His peace which is not of this world.

  9. Faith of the Catholic Church in South America is different from Missouris, New Jersey, or California, USA. As Catholics in the USA we are taught from controlled doctrine that is often twisted and distorted to fit a situation. I have seen Bishops lie to a congregation, saying it is “God’s will”. They cover up despicable crimes and hide behind their collars.

    I first heard of “John of God’ from a priest from Venezuela. When he first spoke about it in church, I am quite certain that those who understood his broken English expected the ceiling and walls to begin falling

    Why can’t people heal ? Why do we think that these powers were used only in Biblical times. If our world survives another 2,000 years, these will be times that people will wonder why we were limited in our Spiritualism.

    Edgar Casey also gave medical advice to cure people, though he never stepped foot in a medical college. Many years after his death there are hundreds of thousands of followers and several institutes in his name.

    At one point in my life I had terrible knee and back pain. I also had several excruciating bouts of sciatica. The pain was unbearable. I happened upon a world known healer and today I can say that while pushing 60 years of age, I am in less pain as each day goes on….

    There are different levels of spirituality. Some people will never understand the process.

    Time and space, different realms of here or there….What is the distance between us and those who’ve passed on from this life? What is the distance between here and heaven? Could it be that it is only ‘a breath away’ as Josh Groban sang to us?

    If we seek spiritualism, we just may find a place never seen before. As far as the Catholic Church Catechism, it was written to control people. If you travel in Europe, you will find lovely palaces built by Arch Bishops, who wrote laws for the people of their parishes to control behavior. Only thing was, they did not follow the same rules.

    No one should hold another human living or dead over God the Father or Christ His Son or The Holy Spirit. Look further into the New Testament of the Christian Bible and you will see that Christ offered his abilities to those who followed him. Who is to say this is not possible here and now.

    How many of us have heard that ‘inner voice’ of our deceased parents speak to us. Or have acted on an instinct to keep us on the right path, either out of danger or in the right direction. We’ve all had hunches, sometimes we regret not acting on them, sometimes when we do act on them it can be miraculous. What if these ‘hunches’ were a mere peek into the possibility of spiritualism?

    If John of God as a man on earth can heal one person through his belief and love of God, then who are we to question his service. He does not live in a mansion. He could easily be on television and would be rich and famous in the world. But he chooses to act on his faith in a relatively simple town with moderate means.

    There are warnings in the Bible about speaking against the ‘preacher, profit, or man of God. Are warnings real or written for control? Who are we to question someone who claims all they have is for the glory of God? If they were an athlete in the Olympics we would smile and accept.

    We should be wary of the non believers and the naysayers, they are more dangerous than this man.

    • m carroll: there are so so many things that I could say and try to share with you but I have decided that the time will be better served in praying for you and your bitterness toward Christ’s Holy Church.

      The Devil will tell you a thousand truths, just to slip in One Lie.

    • I agree completely with m carrol and i dont think i could add anything else to it. “If God is with us, who could be against”, I have been reading all the comments and wanted to comment, but i think m carroll said it all.

      the followers of Christ is a perfect example

      thanks